i matured in the civil rights movement. later, of course, i get to live through the election of the first african-american president of this country. so, you know, i felt in a sense that i was a bridge between the history of our two countries, which is very much there. i also felt like i was there symbolizing the international community and the importance of america and americans took a stand against apartheid. and said no to our government, when ronald reagan wanted to solidify, you know, our u.s. support for apartheid. we said, no. and we played an important role in that. and that was very critical, as well. >> you did play an important role. it's a privilege to have you here today. >> thank you. >>> we're going to switch gears now. to what some are calling an epidemic of twins. the fertility health for couples that want children. it's also a boom in multiple births. and now, fertility doctors are trying to cut that. >> reporter: the idea that two is better than one or that twins are always twice as nice, maybe notions of